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Jesus is deity but not part of a Trinity:

What ‘one’ means in John 10

by Bill Wong

 

 

 

A verse that Trinitarians like to give as evidence of Jesus’ oneness with His father is John 10:30. 

However, even giving it as liberal a meaning as possible, it still does not indicate the concept of oneness that a Trinity doctrine espouses (that three persons are one God). 

 

John 10:

30 I and My Father are one.”  (NKJV)

 

 

For some reason, the Trinity doctrine overlooks the very words that the Lord Jesus said immediately before saying this.  He said:

 

John 10:

29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.    

    (NKJV)

 

 

So right from the very start a Trinity doctrine is not true.  Jesus said they are not equal, but says His father is greater and has given the disciples to Him in the same breath He says they are one.  He could not mean a Trinitarian concept of one.

 

However, we are supposed to believe the Trinitarian concept of God and Jesus being one from John 10:30 anyway and are expected to ignore John 17 where the Lord Jesus again says He is one with His father:

 

John 17:

11 "I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You Holy Father,

    keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are.

    (NASB)

 

John 17:

20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;

21  that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us,

     that the world may believe that You sent Me.

22  And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one:

23  I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me,

     and have loved them as You have loved Me.  

    (NKJV)

 

 

Notice that the Lord Jesus does not just say He is one with the Father, but He says that we all are one with the Lord and the Father.

 

The same ‘one’ that the Lord Jesus uses in John 10:30 to describe being one with His father, is used in John 17:11, 20-23 to describe how all believers are one with one another and the Lord Jesus and our Heavenly Father.

 

According to the Trinity doctrine’s definition of ‘one’ and its own reasoning on John 10:30, that would mean God is not just tri-une, but God is really “multi-une” or “poly-une” since we – Father, Jesus and those in Christ, are all supposed to be one.  It cannot say the Lord Jesus being one with His father in John 10:30 is proof of a Trinity, unless it is willing to also apply this same usage to us being one with God and Jesus in John 17.

 

Unless of course, the truth is that being ‘one’ with our Heavenly Father, the Lord Jesus and all believers has nothing to do whatsoever with a Trinity doctrine of three co-equal persons being yet one God.

 

The Lord Jesus tells us what one means: unity. In John 17 verse 23, “made perfect in one” means unity of love, mind, purpose, action, and ultimately, being like Jesus – all according to the will of God.  The Lord Jesus is the image of His father and we are supposed to be the image of Christ. As Jesus is in us, God loves us just as He loves His son. It does not mean ‘one’ or ‘unity’ in the way a Trinity doctrine teaches.  Jesus is not saying He is a 2nd person in one God.