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Jesus is deity but not part of a Trinity:

The Bible tells us the Father alone is immortal (cannot die)

by Bill Wong

 

 

 

Seekers of God’s truth – Bible truth, must be prepared to lay down all preconceived ideas and biases they might have and let the Bible be the sole foundation of truth. If what it says conflicts with what you have always been taught, which of the two would you give up? Or stated another way: once you have found the Bible truth and it proves that all you knew was false, will you be willing to die for God’s truth or stay in your old ways and die for a lie?

 

1 Timothy 6 proves why a Trinity doctrine is false, but it is often overlooked, ignored or not taken seriously and “explained away” by the Trinity doctrine. Its shows that God is greater than His son and it is not because of any roles or positions they have in the godhead as a Trinity doctrine assumes.

 

The truth that the Father and His son are not equal can be seen by the fact that it is God, the Lord Jesus’ father, who raised Him (see article: ‘Father raises Him’). This means quite simply that if the Lord Jesus is not raised by His father, He would remain dead – lifeless. The truth that God is greater than His son is magnified in the words of the apostle Paul in 1 Timothy 6, where the Bible speaks about one who alone is immortal (the word ‘immortal’ means one who cannot die):

 

1 Timothy 6:

13 I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed

    the good confession before Pontius Pilate,

14 that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ’s appearing,

15 which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords,

16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see,

    to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.     (NKJV)

 

 

 

Who is it saying is immortal?

 

Many people do not stop to think what this really means since they have already been misled by a Trinity doctrine and so believe God is 3 persons and they are all the same any way. Then with this viewpoint, they say it must be referring to the Lord Jesus, because it mentions His appearing and King of kings and Lord of lords. However, they miss three critical facts which show it is not talking about the Lord Jesus as the immortal one:

 

1) Verse 15 mentions one who “will manifest in His own time” the appearance of the Lord Jesus.

However, the Bible tells us it is not the Lord Jesus who controls when this time is or knows when this time is, but it is His father (Matthew 24:36; Mark 13:32; Acts 1:6-7). So this cannot be referring to Jesus as the immortal one, but it would be our Heavenly Father.

 

2) Verse 15 states King of kings and Lord of lords, which is a term used for the Lord Jesus. Believers have been taught for almost two millennia both a Trinity doctrine and to stay away from all things Jewish, so they do not understand the ancient Hebrew concept of agency and therefore come to wrong conclusions about the nature of God.

 

An agent is one who is representative of another and assumes all authority of the person he represents – even to speak and act as if he was that person. The Bible tells us that before God sent His son, God used angels (Acts 7:35; Hebrews 1:1-2; 2:2-3). We readily see this when the Bible shows angels speaking and acting as if they were God Himself, and men and women react to them as if they were God. That the Lord Jesus – the Word and Son of God, is called King of kings is entirely appropriate as 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 and Philippians 2:10-11 shows. The true King of kings is our Heavenly Father who is being referenced here as the immortal one. 

 

3) Verse 16 states that the immortal one is onewhom no man has seen or can see’.   Only God, the father of the Lord Jesus Christ, is described as being invisible or having never been seen (John 1:18; Colossians 1:15).

 

 

Of course, in addition to this, to find out who is the immortal one being spoken of in 1 Timothy 6, all we need to do is find out what the word immortal means and to seriously consider what the Bible truth is. The word immortal means one who cannot die. The honest Christian who earnestly seeks God’s truth may feel a bit uneasy now. However, we all know who died to pay the penalty for our sins.

 

Therefore, the answer to who is the immortal one is: it is the Father alone who is immortal and being referenced here, and He must be the one who is immortal, because it is evident to all believers that the Lord Jesus was able to die, and did die. 

 

The Bible truth that it is God alone who is immortal is made clear in the very beginning of the Book of 1 Timothy by the apostle Paul, which gives us the correct context for what we read in 1 Timothy 6. Paul does not state it is anyone else who is immortal or invisible:

 

1 Timothy 1:

17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone is wise, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.     (NKJV)

 

 

Some may say that nothing is impossible with God and so He can die if He chooses to.  This, however, is a contradiction, because one cannot be immortal and yet be able to die at the same time – immortality and mortality/death are mutually exclusive. If one is immortal it means He cannot die and cannot even choose to do so.  Otherwise, if one can die, then He was never truly immortal. 

 

As only one person is referenced here and it is the Father, we find out exactly why there is only one true God (John 17:3).  The Father cannot die, but His son can.  There is only one true God, but this God has a son who is by nature God (deity), and hence God, because His Father is God (John 1:1).  Please see section 'Nature of God' under the Deity of Christ.  However, the son is not the one true God that is above all, the Almighty – which is a title only the Father has. 

 

Since the Lord Jesus was able to die, that means if one can have an end, then one must also have a beginning and His life is owed to another who is greater. The Lord is not self-sufficient in only one respect, but it is the most important one of all which shows why there is only one true God who is above all. The Lord Jesus’ life depended on another – His father, and so, the Lord can die (and did) as well.

 

This is why God’s declaration of His lone immortality is preceded by saying that He is the one who gives life to all things:

 

1 Timothy 6:
13
I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed

    the good confession before Pontius Pilate,

 

 

The Bible tells us that the Almighty Father alone is above all things and gives life to everything including His son, and then the Bible says the Father alone cannot die. The Bible tells us that the Lord is the only-begotten son of the Father and is therefore not created, and it is through His son by which all things are created from nothing.

 

It becomes apparent why the Lord Jesus calls His father the one true God; at its most basic level, it is because His father alone is self-sufficient and cannot die and hence, is above all. If the Lord can have an end, then He can also have a beginning. His father is this beginner – the begetter. The Lord was begotten by Him. God is the source of life for His son.

 

And this is exactly what the Lord Jesus tells us. Christians should not be surprised with the Father’s declaration of His immortality in 1 Timothy 6 which does not include Jesus, who died for our sins, because the Lord Jesus Himself said that His life depends on the Father:

 

John 5:

26"For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself;    (NASB)

 

John 6:

57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me.     (NKJV)

 

 

The Lord Jesus states with no ambiguity that His power to give life (context of John 5:26 is the power to raise and judge the dead) and even His own life comes from His Father. Important in John 6:57 is also the understanding of who the source of life is: God is Jesus’ source of life and Jesus is our source of life and when there is an absence or withholding of that life source, one can die.

 

Christians must not selectively choose what they wish to believe; they should only believe what is true.

All believers of the Lord Jesus’ sacrifice know that the Lord carried all our sins and suffered and died for us, but inherent in the Lord’s death is that His source of life (God, His father) had to be cut off from Him so that He can die. The Father allowed this to happen and did indeed cut off the Lord’s lone source of life – God Himself, and after three days, the Father raised Him up again to life.

 

 

Another proof in 1 Timothy 6 that the Trinity doctrine is false is what we read in verse 16 where it says God alone dwells ‘in unapproachable light.’ It declares God’s supremacy – the reason why He is the Almighty: He is so great and dwells here, and hence requires one who is approachable. This is why He does everything through His son. It is God’s son, the Lord Jesus Christ who is approachable and makes us approachable to our father.

 

According to a Trinity doctrine, since God and the Lord Jesus are equals, then both should dwell in unapproachable light. However, if this was true, then it would make Christ unapproachable as well. This means Jesus would need someone else to intercede between Jesus and us, too. Such an idea is impossible, but it is what the Trinity doctrine teaches since it states there is 1 God in 3 persons who are all co-equal. But we know that it is Christ’s approachability, atonement and intercession which is 100% of what He is all about so we can be one with the Father like He is. The Bible makes it evident that it is God alone who dwells in unapproachable light, and His son is approachable, through whom God can be approached.

 

The descriptions of God as the invisible one who alone cannot die and gives life to all things, dwelling in unapproachable light, should make earnest believers stop and think to themselves if a Trinity doctrine even makes sense. To the objective reader, these descriptions clearly speak of someone who is far above anyone and everyone. For the unbiased Christian, this would be even more obvious that God is greater than His son and it is not because of a “role” in a godhead, because every Christian knows and believes in their heart of hearts that at the very core of what and who the Lord Jesus is, is this: He is approachable and therefore our mediator.

 

 

The Bible truth is this:

 

God, the one who cannot die and dwells in unapproachable light, is the one who sent His son, who is approachable and can die, to redeem us by His blood so that we all may approach and be with God forever in eternity.

 

The Lord Jesus not being the equal of His father is not an insult to the Lord at all, but it is Bible truth – it is the only way we can be saved.

 

 

 

What the Trinity doctrine really says is false

 

Despite the Bible stating that God is immortal and cannot die and the evidence declares the Lord Jesus did die, a Trinity doctrine still insists that its beliefs are true and both father and son are equals.

 

However, the simple fact of the matter is this:

If the Lord is “eternally begotten” as a Trinity doctrine believes, then the Lord Jesus should not be able to die.

 

To say they are co-equal in all ways except “position” makes a liar out of God, the Father, who says He alone cannot die.

 

By its own definition of 1 God as 3 co-equal persons, a Trinity doctrine states then that the Father can also die and even that each person is co-dependent upon the other, but in both cases the Bible says it is untrue: God, our Father, cannot die, and even when His son did die, the Father still existed and raised Him. If the Father did not raise the Lord Jesus, then He would remain un-raised. Believers must let these facts sink in to understand the difference between the Father and His son.

 

If the Trinity doctrine holds that all persons in the godhead are equals (in this case, we are discussing specifically the father and son) then the Trinity doctrine is actually saying the following things:

 

1) Since all are equal, if one can die, then all can die.

 

2) God is a liar since He said He alone cannot die, but yet His son, who is His equal, was able to die.

 

Since the Lord Jesus was able to die and God cannot lie, then when He says He alone cannot die, the only conclusion we can reach is that the Bible tells us beyond a doubt that the Trinity doctrine is undeniably false.

 

 

The declaration in 1 Timothy 6:16 that the Father cannot die, but yet the Lord Jesus can and did die, causes problems in Trinitarian doctrines regarding the nature of God and proves them to be untrue. Two are briefly summarized below.

 

 

One God in 3 forms (Modalism):

 

a)  The Bible says the Father raised Jesus.  If there is one God in three phases, then God dies forever when He dies in the form of the Son, because the Father is one and the same person and is therefore non-existent to raise the son.

 

b) The Bible lied when it says the Father raised the Lord.

 

c)  Jesus does not talk to Himself when He converses, cries out and prays to the Father.  Jesus states outrightly that He and His father are two distinct persons:

 

John 8:

17"Even in your law it has been written that the testimony of two men is true.

18"I am He who testifies about Myself, and the Father who sent Me testifies about Me."    (NASB)

 

 

d) Jesus died, but the Father cannot die. This is fundamentally contradictory if it is the same one God in three modes. It shows Modalism to be an outright lie.

 

 

Conclusion:

This belief cannot be true; God does not exist in modes/phases.

 

 

 

One God in 3 co-equal persons (Trinitarian); also applies to 2 God-person doctrines:

 

a)  God has lied all along when He said that He alone is God and the Shema ("The LORD our God, the LORD is one!", Deuteronomy 6:4) makes no sense.

 

b)  All along He is talking only about one person and ignoring the other entirely, as also indicated when He says He will not share His glory with another.

 

c)  There cannot be three co-equal persons, as evidenced by one being able to die.

 

d)  The Lord Jesus calls His father the one true God (John 17:3). This means only the Father is the true God which contradicts this doctrine with its 3 equal persons, yet one God.

 

e)  If one person of this godhead can die, that means any one of them (including the Father) can die since they are all supposedly equal and the same one God.

 

f) However, God said He alone is immortal, so God is called a liar since He said He alone is immortal.

 

 

But God cannot lie:

 

Hebrews 6:

18  so that by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie,

     we who have taken refuge would have strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us.

 

 

If God (who is the Father) says He cannot die, that means He alone is the one and true God as His son tells us. God cannot lie so when He says He cannot die, then He cannot die – that is what being God is.  God cannot be immortal and be able to die at the same time.  If you are able to die that means you are not the one true God. Therefore, His son is not His equal, because He can die.

 

Conclusion:  

This belief cannot be true; God does not exist as 3 equal persons, yet one God.

 

 

 

Conclusion:

 

It is of vital importance to know the true nature of God and His son. This is the only way we can know their true relationship with each other and then also our relationship with them. Without this truth, we will not fully grasp the significance of what the Lord did when He died for our sins. We can also never worship God in spirit and truth and love Him with every part of our being as we are commanded to do. To know the Bible truth of who and what God is and also who and what His son is, is the cornerstone of the Bible and our faith, because it shows us the character of God and His son, and also explains all the actions they took on our behalf.

 

The Trinity doctrine clouds all these things, because it distorts who God is, and therefore who the Lord Jesus is, from the very beginning. If we do not know the true nature of God, then how can we worship in spirit and truth who we do not really know? How can we love Him in truth? All we believe and do will be based on lies. It is time we stop holding onto lies which have been passed down to us. We must follow the Bible and the Bible only. We must follow what is true and the Bible declares that God is not triune in nature – the Trinity doctrine is a false doctrine.

 

The Trinity doctrine is a stumbling block for both non-believers and believers. God is not a God of confusion, but a God of order.

 

But it is time all people everywhere know the true God of the Bible, because the time is short. God wants us to seek Him and the earnest seeker will find Him. God wants us to worship and love Him in spirit and truth, and this the earnest seeker will do, when he knows who God really is. He is the immortal one who dwells in unapproachable light, but because He is love, approaches us through His only-begotten son Jesus, so that we can approach Him and be with Him forever. This is the Bible truth. The Bible is all about truth and it alone can set us free.   

 

 

 

Please also read article: Nature of God: Jesus is Deity